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2. TOPIC LIMITS: No discussions of dangerous experiments (this group is
not adult-only!) Please reduce any discussion of off-topic issues.
Limits on "weird science:" SCICLUB-LIST is for conventional science
amateur research, and proper "Truzzi-style" skepticism should be
pursued. For the unusual stuff, see the FREENRG-L or KEELYNET
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and chunks. However, please don't include the ENTIRE message in your
reply. This fills the archives with useless junk, and overloads all of
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interested parties. Or, contact me and we can place them on the
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FLAMEWARS
Email psychology has an interesting effect: it breeds long outbursts of
angry messages between two or more parties. To prevent these
"flamewars", I must prohibit all impolite messages. This has some
consequences. For example, if someone attacks you or insults you, you
must abandon any hope of defending yourself in front of the group.
Instead, defend yourself via private messages. Or, if someone blatantly
violates the forum rules, you may NOT use the list to angrily point out
their transgressions. Complaint to the violator privately, or contact
the moderator instead.
"Politeness" and "insult" of course are in the eye of the beholder. I
ask that people try not to take insult. But more importantly, I DEMAND
that all users try to craft their messages so that the RECIPIENT won't
take insult. Any complaints should be totally polite, respectful,
emotionless, and non-accusatory, with no 'namecalling' whatsoever.
Often this is impossible to do. The solution is very, VERY simple:
SEND YOUR MESSAGE DIRECTLY TO YOUR OPPONENT, NOT TO SCICLUB-LIST
When a flamewar breaks out, people usually blame a particular person for
causing it, and they feel justified in responding. However, sending
your angry response to this list is PROHIBITED. If you catch yourself
thinking "well, he/she started, I was just defending myself," then
since you easily find justification to violate rule #1 of this forum,
you should not be here.
Some wisdom regarding flaming...
"Few people can be happy unless they hate some other person, nation or
creed." - Bertrand Russell
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two
opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to
function." - F. Scott Fitzgerald
Being too ready to defend oneself is more dangerous than being too
ready to admit a mistake." - Sir Karl Popper
"Truth often suffers more by the heat of its defenders than by the
arguments of its opponents." - anon
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. If you
really make them think, they'll hate you." - D.R.P. Marquis(1878-1937)
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